u ****ing suck
This one’s not even about me. Our subject ends up all-in with kings, but loses to a river flush. (Read the hand history, and then comb through again for my comments.) Let’s see how he can avoid this happening in the future.
PokerStars Game #2116734181: Tournament #10132514, Hold’em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2005/07/16 - 15:05:33 (ET)
Table ‘10132514 1′ Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: Phalconx (630 in chips)
Seat 3: bbocholis4 (715 in chips)
Seat 4: cannotblufme (1650 in chips)
Seat 5: wterrill (2340 in chips)
Seat 7: dnord520 (3475 in chips)
Seat 8: rntaz (3775 in chips)
Seat 9: Jerry4545 (915 in chips)
rntaz: posts small blind 50
Jerry4545: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dnord520 [2h Qh]
Phalconx: folds
bbocholis4: raises 300 to 400
4 BB’s: a perfectly acceptable raise from UTG+1, but he’s put in almost half his chips now, and since he plans on putting them all in anyway, an all-in that takes the blinds isn’t a bad result.
cannotblufme: folds
wterrill: folds
dnord520: folds
Yeah, I like having a large stack, a suited queen and everything, but I’ve seen a raise, and I’m not participating.
rntaz: calls 350
This call with Q6s is insane. Is he on it because he’s small blind, and has already committed 50? I can’t say.
Jerry4545: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 4s 5d]
rntaz: checks
bbocholis4: bets 300
I can’t think of any reason not to go all-in here. This is effectively the same bet, unless he forgot how short his stack was before all the betting happened.
rntaz: calls 300
This call looks insane, but it’s not quite so crazy. The inside straight draw is four outs twice, so that’s a 16% probability to occur on the turn or river. The running flush draw is maybe a 15-1 shot, but that’s that another whole six of the 25 percent he needs (since the pot is 900 now, and the price is 300) to call it. And he doesn’t know how much he’s behind at this point: a 4BB raise followed by a (for all purposes) all-in could be AK, AJ, 99… and in those cases, you have to add the remaining queens as outs. I would probably avoid this call, because it’s so close, and you hate to double up the short stack so early, but I wouldn’t have been in this hand with trash to begin with, since I play tighter than that.
*** TURN *** [8d 4s 5d] [Ts]
rntaz: checks
bbocholis4: checks
Blank.
*** RIVER *** [8d 4s 5d Ts] [5s]
rntaz: bets 300
bbocholis4: calls 15 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rntaz: shows [6s Qs] (a flush, Queen high)
bbocholis4: shows [Kc Kd] (two pair, Kings and Fives)
rntaz collected 1530 from pot
Phalconx said, "yo dude you are a lucky ****"
Phalconx said, "lol"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1530 | Rake 0
Board [8d 4s 5d Ts 5s]
Seat 2: Phalconx folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 3: bbocholis4 showed [Kc Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Fives
Seat 4: cannotblufme folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 5: wterrill folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 7: dnord520 (button) folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 8: rntaz (small blind) showed [6s Qs] and won (1530) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 9: Jerry4545 (big blind) folded before Flop
There are two possibilities: an all-in bet pre-flop could have saved the kings. You have to consider your stack size when you make your standard 4BB raise with a nice hand like this. If it’s more than half your stack, the leverage post-flop is going to be minimized (a drawing hand might just find calling more entertaining than not). But that brings up the other possibility: a 2BB raise, as ugly as it is, leaves a pot-size stack in your hands should you need to raise again post-flop. And, done from second position, it’s probably going to clear as many people as the 4BB raise would.
But do you really want to clear people out with kings? I guess you want ace-x to fold. Everyone else you pretty much want along for the ride.
Since observer chat doesn’t go into my logs, I can’t relay the tirade by the cracked kings, but it went on for a few hands and was mostly filtered down by PokerStars software to "u ****ing suck".